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Remark 2790 of Mon Apr 17 12:29:07 MET 2006 by anonymous referring to: Ernst II. zu Oettingen-Wallerstein

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Remark 2791 of Wed Apr 19 18:57:32 MET 2006 by anonymous referring to: Pippin I. (III)

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Remark 2792 of Tue Apr 25 1:59:19 MET 2006 by anonymous referring to: Friedrich Franz Joseph v.Spaur

gest. 1821 Wien (source: Wurzbach, Karl O. Wagner: „Domherr Friedrich Graf Spaur und seine Werke“, in: MGSL 74 (1934), 145–58)

Remark 2793 of Wed Apr 26 18:36:40 MET 2006 by herrlein@gmx.de referring to: Siegfried I. v.Walbeck

Als sein 6. Kind wird eine Oda von W. angegeben. Das kann aber auf Grund deren Lebensdaten nicht stimmen. Wenn Siegfried 990 gestorben ist, kann seine Tochter Oda nicht 1152 gestorben sein (source: )

Remark 2794 of Fri Apr 28 15:20:11 MET 2006 by r_markner@yahoo.com referring to: Maximilian zu Lodron-Laterano

Vornamen: Maximilian Joseph Maria Xaver Anton (source: Ferchl 489 u. 1372)

--Maximilian! Jos M F X Anton Dominicus Joh Nepomuk --

Remark 2795 of Wed May 3 1:37:24 MET 2006 by jproepper@hotmail.com referring to: Heinrich II. v.Nassau-Beilstein

According to one source he was born on 29 September 1374. (source: Allgemeine Deutsche Biographie, Volume 11, Page 550)

Remark 2796 of Wed May 3 1:40:45 MET 2006 by jproepper@hotmail.com referring to: Katharina v.Randerode

Re: Her mother, Maria, Grafin von Sayn--this site and others has two possible Marias, one the daughter of Johann II, Graf von Sayn, the other the daughter of Gottfried II, Graf von Sayn-Homburg. Either the Schwenicke chart, or the one by ? Von Isenburg (the types of charts are identical, I don't have the front pages any more), only lists Johann II, Graf von Sayn as having a daughter Maria, who married Arnold II von Randerode. No Maria is listed as a daughter of Gottfried II von Sayn-Homburg. (source: Schwenicke or Isenburg charts)

Remark 2797 of Wed May 3 1:50:40 MET 2006 by jproepper@hotmail.com referring to: Friedrich VIII. v.Leiningen

His wife Yolande was the daughter of Gottfried, Graf von J"ulich-Bergheim, and Elisabeth, Grafin von Kleve, was she not? (source: Me)

--there is a mixup with his brother --

Remark 2798 of Wed May 3 2:13:21 MET 2006 by jproepper@hotmail.com referring to: Wilhelm v.Nassau

Er war Dompropst zu Mainz (source: Allgemeine Deutsche Biographie, Volume 11, Page 550)

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Remark 2799 of Fri May 19 13:14:14 MET 2006 by anonymous referring to: Carl Anton v.Weinrich

Der Geburtstag des 2. Sohns Otto liegt ca. 6 Jahre nach dem Tod der Mutter (source: )

--also aus 2.Ehe --

Remark 2800 of Fri May 26 2:03:16 MET 2006 by jproepper@hotmail.com referring to: Adalbert I. v.d.Ostmark

According to one website, his first wife was Glismod N, sister of Meinwerks, Bishop of Paderborn! (source: http://www.genealogy.euweb.cz/babenberg/babenberg.html#JL3)

--this might be. the name varies. might be he has 2 wifes --

Remark 2801 of Sun May 28 12:39:25 MET 2006 by esoxinc@yahoo.de referring to: Agnes v.Württemberg

Agnes ist nach Gerhard Raff, 1988 eine Tochter von Ulrich I. von Württemberg und der Markgräfin Mechthild von Baden. (source: Raff, Gerhard, "Hie gut Wirtemberg allewege: d. Haus Württemberg von Graf Ulrich d. Stifter bis Herzog Ludwig", Stuttgart: Dt. Verl.-Anst., 1988, 3. Auflage 1994, ISBN 3-421-06335-4)

--welche Agnes? --

Remark 2802 of Mon Jun 19 1:39:19 MET 2006 by r_markner@yahoo.com referring to: Johann Caspar Basselet de La Rosee

*30. 4. 1710 Arlon, +12. 4. 1795 Münchenoo 1745 Maria Johanna Elisabeth Freiin von Ruffin (14. 4. 1718 - 2. 11. 1764) (source: Wolfgang Burgmair: Die zentralen Regierungsstellen des Kurfürsten Max III. Josephs, Diss. München 1992)

--in den Adelsakten steht für die Frau:*24.4.1718 --

Remark 2803 of Thu Jul 20 0:18:20 MET 2006 by djordjes@gmail.com referring to: Georg Adam v.Schlieben

This page contains some mistakes and errors. Georg Adam Graf v.Schlieben (1640-1720) was son of Georg Adam v.Schlieben (1605-1649) and Esther von Flanss (1614-1682). He wasn't son of Georg Adam Graf v.Schlieben (1688-1737), because he was older than him and was his father too. Some links about that is wrong (link to father and to mother). List of his children is wrong too (and for shildren his spouse Eleonora Christina v.Oelsen on her page too). Please see http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00054813&tree=LEO on that page you can find sources about correct information.Best regards,Djordje Stakic (source: http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00054813&tree=LEO)

--there are 5 GA v.S in the database. none of them has the dates 1640-1720. GA 1688-1737 has no son GA. So, I cannot verify your claim --

Remark 2804 of Wed Jul 26 14:49:58 MET 2006 by jpmg@planet.nl referring to: Alianore de Clare

Sir, Alianore de Clare was NOT the daughter of Gilbert de Clare (+1314) and Maud de Burgh. They were her elder brother and sister in law. Her real parents were Joan of Acre (d. of king Edward I) and Gilbert de Clare (1243-1295) Earl of Gloucester, byname "The Red". (source: Isabella, She-Wolfe of France, Queen of England by Alison Weir; Pimlico 2006)

--ok --

Remark 2805 of Wed Jul 26 15:51:59 MET 2006 by jpmg@planet.nl referring to: Margaret de Clare

Sir, The same holds true for Margaret de Clare (source: )

--ok --

Remark 2806 of Wed Jul 26 15:52:55 MET 2006 by jpmg@planet.nl referring to: Elizabeth de Clare

Sir, the same holds true for Elizabeth de Clare (source: )

--ok --

Remark 2807 of Wed Aug 16 11:13:25 MET 2006 by reimerdelpin@aol.com referring to: Maria Eleonora v.Kurz

1637-87Ehemann: Ferdinand Maximilian (von Sprinzenstein) (source: www.univie.ac,at/Geschichte/wienerhof/wienerhof2/grafiken/familie l.htm )

-->>I=greatgrandfather: Matheo Ghetaldi(30.12.1705- 13.3.1776), married with Catherina v.Gondola, grandfather: Segismondo Ghetaldi (21.2.1752,Ragusa, 26.12.1797,Ragusa), who married with Marianne Bosdari father: Biagio v. Ghetaldi(22.12.1788, Ragusa -27.10.1872, Ragusa), mother: Anna Bosdari (1809), brothers: Segismondo v. Ghetaldi(02.12.1829 – 27.1.1853), Giovanni v. Ghetaldi (07.1.1833 Zara– 27.11.1916, Ragusa), Maria v.Ghetaldi(23.4.1831-Zara-?)//Giovanni married with Olga baroness Collioud Ritter von Zahony in 1899 adopted her daughter:Giulia Carola Melanie Collioud-Ghetaldi(24.4.1883,Trieste – 06.7.1942, Dubrovnik)/Q=Almanac of Gotha, Freiherriche House, 1864-1941, Archive in Dubrovnik)/M=You need the other branch, Ghetaldi-Gondola, who born when Segismondo Graf v.Gondola adopted the son of Matheo v.Ghetaldi, Francesco, and the testamentary condition was adopted the surname "Gondola"./D=20.8.2006, Juan Matteucci, Santiago, Chile, derecho_jcb@vtr.net. pd: i have a lot info about this family./FOLD=Helene/NOLD=v.Ghetaldi/BASE=I382995/LANG=germ --

Remark 2808 of Mon Aug 21 16:37:50 MET 2006 by anonymous referring to: Karl-Hubertus Arnd Albert Julius v.Schimmelmann

bei zwei Kindern wurde als Nachnahme versehentlich "v.Campe" und nicht "v. Schimmelmann" eingetragen.v.Campe ist der Nachnahme eines Ehegatten der übrigen Kinder (source: )

--danke --

Remark 2809 of Wed Aug 30 14:29:01 MET 2006 by jochem@jhl-hoppegarten.de referring to: Marie Josephe v.Merode

Starb 1769 als Chanoinesse in Mons (source: Taufeintrag in Langerwehe (Merode / D'Horn))

--danke --

Remark 2810 of Sat Sep 9 2:50:34 MET 2006 by anonymous referring to: Gottfried Christoph Heinrich Anton Maria v.Degenfeld-Schonburg

Bzw.,ergänzen:Gottfried von Degenfeld starb am : 25.Mai.2005in Eybach, Geislingen, am Vorabend zu Fronleichnam (source: Martin Andreas Paulus, Freund der Familie Degenfeld)

--danke. ich hab ne diffizile genealogische Frage! --

Remark 2811 of Sat Sep 9 3:01:04 MET 2006 by anonymous referring to: Ferdinand Heinrich Friedrich Konrad Christoph Eduard Maria v.Degenfeld-Schonburg

Fünftes Kind, : Felicitas, 27. Juni, 1998 (source: Martin Andreas Paulus, Freund der Familie Degenfeld)

Remark 2812 of Mon Sep 18 9:56:15 MET 2006 by eggelret@aol.com referring to: Moritz v.Sachsen

Adel CD ). erw. Aufl. 2006in Europäsche Geschichte kommt der falsche Moritz 1746 Roccourt: Franzosen unter Moritz v.Sachsen schlagen britisch-österreichische Truppen kann nicht Moritz 1521-1553 sein!!!Moritz Kurfuerst v.Sachsen * 21.3.1521 Freiberg+ 11.7.1553 Sievershausen?Vater: Heinrich v.SachsenMutter: Catharina v.MecklenburgEhe/Verbindung : Agnes v.HessenAnna v.Sachsen (23.12.1544-18.12.1577)Albert v.Sachsen (28.11.1545-12.4.1546) (source: )

--super, danke, falscher Link --

Remark 2813 of Mon Sep 18 10:07:18 MET 2006 by eggelret@aol.com referring to: Wilhelm I.

Auf der Adel CD 9. erw. Auflage 2006bei Europäische Geschichte Alfonso falsch 1875 Madrid: Monarchisten proklamieren Alfonso zum Rey kommt:(Kann nicht sein)!!König Alfons +   <  >   4v  2n   q   Verwandte   Personengruppe   Notiz hinzufügen   Urkundenindex * 23.11.1221, Toledo+ 4.4.1284, Sevillaund bei:21.-23.2.1782 Paris: Höhepunkt der Feste zur Geburt des Dauphins kommt:(kann nicht sein)!!Louis XI Roi de France +   <  >   4v  2n   q   Verwandte   Personengruppe   Notiz hinzufügen   Urkundenindex * 3.7.1423, Bourges+ 30.8.1483, Chateau du Plessis (source: )

--super, danke, 2 falsche Links --

Remark 2814 of Wed Sep 27 19:42:23 MET 2006 by anonymous referring to: Marcell Müller

Geburts- und Sterbedatum sind gleich. Da er verheiratet war, kann er jedoch nicht bei der Geburt gestorben sein. (source: )

--danke --

Remark 2815 of Tue Oct 3 16:54:19 MET 2006 by mz@martin-zwilling.de referring to: Otto Emil Karl Eduard Wilhelm v.Dungern

Folgender Namensvetter fehlt in ihrer Datenbank:Otto von Dungern, geb Neuwied/ Rheinland 14.10.1975, gest. Graz 4.10.1967.Vater: Max Freiherr von Dungern, Mutter: Clara Freiin Vincke.Otto von Dungern war Rechthistoriker und ein bedeutender Genealoge (!).Die um nur jeweils zwei Jahre abweichenden Lebensdaten führen häufig zu Verwechslungen. (source: Kürschners Gelehrtenkal. 1950, K 4 (18.) Bdürschner 1970, Nekrolog, S. 3416; Ibler in Verein d Z. d. Hist. Vereins für Steiermark 1968.)

--danke --

Remark 2816 of Sun Oct 15 21:04:48 MET 2006 by andreas.janda@arcor.de referring to: Hermann III. v.Kalvelage

Ihrer Darstellung der Calvelager/Ravensberger Genealogie möchte ich nicht folgen. Unrichtig ist, dass die Ravensberger direkte Nachfahren der Calvelager waren. Richtig ist, dass die Ravensberger Erben der Calvelager waren. Der Ursprung des Ravensberger Adelsgeschlechtes ist nicht wirklich klar. Wie Ausgrabungen in der Borgholzhausener Kirche belegen, hat es jedoch schon um 1100 existiert. Vorausgesetzt, dass es sich um dieses Geschlecht handelt, was naheliegt, da es in der Gegend um die Ravensburg keine anderen Überlieferungen bzw. Funde gibt. Die Frage ist nun, wie dieses Geschlecht an die Güter der Calvelager gelangte. Die Quellenlage ist dünn, aber nicht widersprüchlich: "(...) aus der Ehe Mathildes mit Konrad von Werl-Arnsberg (+ 1092) geht u.a. eine Tochter unbekannten Namens hervor, die einen westfälischen Grafen wiederum unbekannten Namens heiratet. Dieser kann ein Ravensberger gewesen sein (...)" (Zitat von meiner Website http://www.andreas-janda.de/freizeit/home/ravensberg/ravensberg.htm) Damit wären die Ravensberger mit den Calvelagern verschwägert. In die Erbfolge treten sie ein (und das bekräftigt ihre Schwägerschaft, d.h. die mögliche Heirat der Tochter Mathildes mit einem Ravensberger), weil Hermann III. keine Nachkommen hat.Zur Genealogie im Einzelnen:Edelinde war in zweiter Ehe verheiratet mit Hermann II. von Calvelage. Ihr gemeinsamer Sohn ist Hermann der III. von Calvelage, der kinderlos starb.Otto I. von Ravensberg und seine Geschwister Hedwig und Heinrich sind Kinder der Tochter Mathildes mit dem Ravensberger unbekannten Namens.Literatur: Ravensberger Regesten, Hg. Historischer Verein für die Grafschaft Ravensberg, Westfalen Verlag, Bielefeld, Dortmund, Münster, 1985.Für unzureichend/unrichtig beurteile ich:H. Grote, Stammtafeln, Hahn'sche Verlagsbuchhandlung, Leipzig, 1877. (source: Ravensberger Regesten, Hg. Historischer Verein für die Grafschaft Ravensberg, Westfalen Verlag, Bielefeld, Dortmund, Münster, 1985.)

--hier hat mich wohl der umstrittene Fahne irregeführt. Ist aber auch bei Grote so dargestellt --

Remark 2817 of Wed Nov 1 16:38:01 MET 2006 by luis-carrillo@versanet.de referring to: Sophie Marie Karoline Johanna Ernestine v.Schönburg-Hartenstein

Der korrekte Name des Ehemanns lautet:Alberto Carrillo Leisser. (source: Ich bin einer der Söhne aus der Ehe: Luis Carrillo Schonburg, wohnhaft in D-46399 Bocholt, und stehe gerne für Rückfragen zur Verfügung (luis-carrillo@versanet.de))

--super --

Remark 2818 of Sat Nov 4 12:22:12 MET 2006 by Jochem@jhl-hoppegarten.de referring to: Alveradis v.Vlodorp

Die genannten Eltern starben angeblich ohne Erben. (source: )

--die Söhne waren schon verstorben --

Remark 2819 of Wed Nov 15 4:57:29 MET 2006 by jhudsonm@hotmail.com referring to: Josephine v.Thurn u. Taxis

You show Heinrich Alexander ? as Josephine's husband despite the fact that she died at less than ten years old. According to Theroff's On-line Gotha (section Thurn und Taxis), Heinrich Alexander (von Thurn und Taxis) was Josephine's younger brother. (source: http://pages.prodigy.net/ptheroff/gotha/thurn.html)

--you are right. Schwennicke has them as siblings --

Remark 2820 of Sat Nov 18 10:17:55 MET 2006 by anonymous referring to: Anna v.Leibnegk

Anna von Leobenegg, +1594 verh mit Georg von Wolkenstein +1557; Anna ist die Tochter von Philipp von Leobenegg. (source: Familienaufzeichnungen)

--leider keine zitierfähige Quelle --

Remark 2821 of Mon Nov 20 8:51:09 MET 2006 by reimerdelpin@aol.com referring to: Michael Anton v.Gudenus

Kind: Josef Ernst von Gundenus,*12-1-1832 in Külml (dieser ist schon in der Datei enthalten aber ohne Vater). Weitere Kinder in untenstehender Quelle enthalten (source: GENEALOGISCHES HANDBUCH DES ADELS , Freiherrliche Häuser B Band I; C.A. Starke Verlag)

Remark 2822 of Mon Nov 20 8:59:27 MET 2006 by reimerdelpin@aol.com referring to: Joseph Ernst v.Gudenus

* 12-1-1832 Külml,+18-4-1919 Graz verh. 13-4-1869 Wernberg, Kärnten, mit Kamilla Gräfin von Wagensperg(weitere Daten unter der angebenen Quelle S.133) (source: C.A Starke Verlag ,GENEALOGISCHES HANDBUCH DES ADELS, Freiherrliche Häuser B Band I, Gesamtreihe Band 7, Seite 133)

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Remark 2823 of Tue Dec 26 13:34:02 MET 2006 by abogado_dechile@hotmail.com referring to: Helene v.Ghetaldi

Matheo Ghetaldi, who married with Caterina Gondola, who have two male sons, Francesco and Segismondo, the brother of Segismondo, Francesco was adoptive for your uncle Segismondo Count of Gondola, (sister of Catterina County of Gondola) in 1787, and force for heredy, yours properties, used the surname Ghetaldi-Gondola).The children of Segismondo Ghetaldi (21 February 1752, 26 December 1797), who married with Marianne Bosdari were:Segismondo Ghetaldi (02 December 1829 – 27 January 1853 in Venice, Italy, your father Biagio never want to return to Venice by the tragic death of its young son.Biagio Ghetaldi (Vlaho Getaldi), born in Ragusa 22 December 1788, died in Ragusa 27 October 1872. Diplomat. Biaggio married with Anna Bosdari, his cousin Segismondo Ghetaldi-Gondola married with the sister of Anna "Malvina Orsole Bosdari" (Per le faustissime nozze de’ nobili signori Biagio de Ghetaldi e Sigismondo de Ghetaldi-Gondola con le nobili signore Anna ed Orsola de Bosdari. Versi. Ragusa : Presso Antonio Martecchini, 1828). The Austrian Empire gave the title of Baron/Freiherr to Biaggio in 1846.Giovanni Ghetaldi (07 January 1833 – 27 November 1916). Giovanni was born in Zara, married with Olga baroness Collioud Ritter von Zahony in 1899 adopted her daughter:Giulia Carola Melanie Collioud-Ghetaldi (24 April 1883, Trieste – 06 July 1942, Dubrovnik); who married 3 times, the ultime husband was Conte Giovanni Baron di Petzenstein (Feistriz 12 July 1875 – 03 April 1942, Dubrovnik).Helena Ghetaldi (10 June 1837 in Zara, 24 December 1931 Ragusa) married with Heinrich Nikolaus Bernhard Graf Caboga, 1 August 1818 Ragusa, + 1 March 1881 Viena. They had three children:Marie Bernhardine Anna Caboga 20 November 1856 Ragusa 19 November 1938, Trieste, married with Albert Ritter Conti v. Cebassamare + 6 April 1900 TriesteAnna Marie Enrichetta Luigia Caboga 20 June 1858- date of death unknown), married with Luzian v. Ziegler-Pozza, + 8 September 1930 Ragusa.Bernhard Blasius Maroica Johann Maria Caboga 21 April 1863, 10 May 1922, married with Marie Valerie Freiin v. Locatelli , * 4 June 1870 Angoris, they have a children:Herbert Wolfgang Stuber, Caboga-LocatelliMaria Ghetaldi (23 April 1831). Married to Ignaz Ritter Von Nadherny, born 1814, died 8 October 1875, in Wiener Neustadt, they married 31 December 1852, have 3 children,Elisa Von Nadherny(unknown date of birth and death).Emilia Von Nadherny (unknown date of birth and death).Jindřich Von Nadherny, (unknown date of birth and death), he married with Rosa Wiess in 1894.other branch- In 1787, Segismondo adopted Francesco Ghetaldi-Gondola, the son of his sister Catterina Countess of Gondola October 12, 1709 and die December 26, 1787,. Catterina married Matheo Ghetaldi ( son of Matheo Ghetaldi and Countess Pozza di Zagorien) (December 30, 1705–March 13, 1776). The testamentary condition took place in 1799, uniting the two families, creating the Ghetaldi-Gondola family.[edit] Ghetaldi-Gondola (Getaldić-Gundulić) familyFrancesco Ghetaldi-Gondola was born in Ragusa October 20, 1743 and died December 17, 1798. Francesco married Maria de Natali. The sons of Francesco were Matheo and Segismondo. Matheo Ghetaldi-Gondola (August 23, 1797, date of death unknown]). Segismondo Ghetaldi-Gondola (September 4, 1795–May 5, 1860) married Malvina Orsole Bosdari. In 1845, the Austrian government granted the title of baron (freiherr) to Segismondo (Podestà of Ragusa). His sons were Francesco, Maria, and Giovanni. Francesco Ghetaldi-Gondola (II)August 8, 1833, was the knight of the Maltegian line (Knights Hospitaller) from 1889 until the death of the minister of Dubrovnik. Unmarried, Francesco died in Dubrovnik on July 3, 1899. He was distiguide with the Devotion's cross (S.M.O) in June 15, 1857. He fought in the Franco-Prussian War (1870-1871). In 1893, he opened the monument for Ivan Gundulic in Piazza Gundulic (Gondola) (Präsident des Landwirthshafts-Vereines zu Ragusa). Francesco was buried in the St. Mihailo cemetery (family cemetery) in Lapad (the Gruz district). Maria Ghetaldi-Gondola (born July 10, 1837, date of death unknown), lived in Venice, Italy around 1900. Her first marriage (of two) was to Anton Lunda. He was Oberstlieutenant des Genie-Stabes (rank since 20 Mai 1871) noted as "in techn. u. administrat. Militär-Comité". He had been awarded the Militär Verdienst Kreuz (MVK) and lived in Ofen (1856 hauptmann 1º first class, 15º battalion of Verona (Venice) in 1866., 1 February of 1867 major to Befestigungs-Bau Director of Jaraslau (Poland) date of birth (Böhmen) and death unknown. The first son: Vittorio Lunda (born December 18, 1856, date of death unknown), was born in Ragusa (Dubrovnik), and lived in Palermo. Giovanni Ghetaldi-Gondola (April 15, 1835–March 31, 1891 was Commandant and oberstlieutenant in MarineSpital in the city of Pola (Pula) and later, postcontroller of the Austrian Empire in Graz. He married Camilla Maria Dorninger Von Dornstrauch (May 27, 1843–February 17, 1905), who was born in Salzburg and died in Graz, Austria. Her father was General Major Johann Dorninger von Dornstrauch Oberstlieutenant (1856), Oberst and Commandant (1857) 17 k.k infanterie regiment. Giovanni and Camilla had three children, Malvina, Segismondo, and Anna: Malvina María Ana (September 30, 1862– April 1903), was born in Cattaro and died in Graz. Segismondo Francesco Giuseppe Maria (November 22, 1863–May 30, c.1886), was born in Merano Maia Bassa, South Tyrol,k.k oberlietenant des Metrosen-Korps (i.r tenente del Corpo Marinai a Ragusa), between 1884-1885, the embarkment in the trip of instruction for naval officers in the corvette “Aurora”, under command by captain Victor Bousquet, visiting South America, Brazil and Argentina (Die Reise S.M. Corvette 'Aurora' nach Brasilien und den La Plata-Staaten in den Jahren 1884-1885, Amt, Victor Bousquet. Later died in Graz. Anna Johanna Maria (March 6, 1865– date of death unknown), was born in Cattaro. She married in Graz November 27 1888 Francesco (Fery) Fedrigoni Edler v. Etschthal (c. 1858–August 8, 1914). Commandant d. Inf. Reg. Erzherzog Joseph 37; k.k. Oberst. Who died in Savlaka, Servia in World War I. They had a son, Giulius, and a daughter, Adele. Giulius Fedrigoni Edler v. Etschthal, (May 5, 1893– date of death unknown, in November 17, 1917, when his Austro-Hungarian seaplane K211 (Frglt Giulius Fedrigoni, Stb Masch Wart Egon Preiss) was shot down by a flight of three French fighters near Treporti (the French pilots were Corniglion, Lévy and Bignon) in cooperation with Italian seaplanes from 260a Squadriglia. Between 11.9.1942 and 1.3.1943, (Obstlt) he was commander of regiment in the French Seenotbereichskommando, the city of Cherbourg (Normandía) and the Seenotbereichskommando XIII at Berre/20 km NW of Marseille between (Dec 42 - 19 Aug 44?). Giulius had married Adele Toth de Becsö. Adele Fedrigoni Edler v. Etschthal was born in Steiermark, Bruck ad Mur August 1, 1891. Her date and place of death are unknown. (source: 1) Gothaisches genealogisches Taschenbuch der freiherrlichen Haeuser auf das Jahr 1864, Seite 271-272;2) detto, fuer das Jahr 1917, Seite 297-298; 3) detto, fuer das Jahr 1941, Seite 136-137 (Teil B); 4) Adelslexikon, Band IV G-Har, Jg. 1978, Seite 109; )

Remark 2824 of Tue Dec 26 13:41:35 MET 2006 by abogado_dechile@hotmail.com referring to: ? Gondola

Franz Graf V.Gondola, his son was the archibishop Franz Joseph Graf V. Gondola born in Vienna in 1711 and dies in 1774. (source: Gothaisches genealogisches Taschenbuch der freiherrlichen Haeuser auf das Jahr 1864, Seite 271-272)

Remark 2825 of Wed Dec 27 21:59:33 MET 2006 by abogado_dechile@hotmail.com referring to: Franz v.Gondola

The Gondola or Gunduliæ family (Gondola is the Ragusan Dalmatian/Italian rendition; Gunduliæ is the Croatian rendition) were an old noble family from Dubrovnik (Ragusa), with origins in southern Croatia and the Tyrol. They are considered as one of the most prestigious families of the Republic of Ragusa.Originally from Lucca, the family arrived in Ragusa around 930, with the king Pavlimir of Rome: Wappenbuch von Dalmatien (Heyer Von Rosenfeld), Storia di Raugia (Lucca 1595), Ragusa (Skurla 1876), and Istria e Dalmazia (Semi Tacconi).In the thirteenth century, three generations of this family took leading roles in the public life in Dubrovnik.Three hundred years later, the poet Ivan Gunduliæ 1589-1638 (Giovanni Gondola, son of Francesco Count of Gondola and Dziva Gradi, who died in 1624, had been knez five times) became the most significant person in the Gundulic family, being named the Count in Konavle in 1615 and 1619. In 1634 he became a senator. At the end of 1638 he was elected to the Small Parliament but died before he was able to take office.Giovanni’s son, Francesco, served the Austrian Empire and Polish King Jan III Sobieski in 1683, defeating the Ottoman Turks in the Battle of Vienna. The family then obtained fiefdoms from Leopold I, Holy Roman Emperor. The others sons Segismondo, (Sisko)died (16.1.1682) and Matheo were many times knez of Ragusa.The members of these lines follow.The Giovanni Gondola/Ivan Gunduliæ lineageThis line begins with Giovanni Gondola, who married with Maria Victoria Condezza di Strozzi, have two children, Francesco Antonio Gondola, Generalfeldwachtmeister, July 27, 1682 and Feldmarschall-Leutnant in September 4, 1685, (without descendants of male), who die in 1717, in the familiar palace of the city of Vienna “Renngasse”, and Segismondo Gondola, that married with Catterina De Nale, have four children. Francesco Gondola, Giovanni Gondola, Hieronymus Gondola and Segismondo Gondola. Francesco Gondola married with [[Maria Ana [u]Kisserenyi * Serenyi]], obtains the fiefdoms in June 21, 1719, (with the lands of Trpanj or Trappano) after his death his son inherits Francesco Giuseppe Gondola, archbishop of Paderborner Dom (1752 - 1764), who is born in Vienna in 1711 and dies in 1774, as well holds the fiefdoms from 1764, his cousin, son of Segismondo (II), who died in 1758, *Segismondo Domenico de Gondola February 6, 1712 died in Ragusa January 15, 1800( married with Francesca di Bona died in Ragusa. February 22, 1785, not have any children.In 1787, Segismondo adopted Francesco Ghetaldi-Gondola, the son of his sister Catterina Gondola October 12, 1709 and die December 26, 1787,. Catterina married Matheo Ghetaldi ( son of Matheo Ghetaldi and Countess María Pozza di Zagorien) (December 30, 1705–March 13, 1776). The testamentary condition took place in 1799, uniting the two families, creating the Ghetaldi-Gondola family. (source: Wappenbuch von Dalmatien (Heyer Von Rosenfeld), Storia di Raugia (Lucca 1595), Ragusa (Skurla 1876), and Istria e Dalmazia (Semi Tacconi).)

Remark 2826 of Wed Dec 27 21:59:33 MET 2006 by abogado_dechile@hotmail.com referring to: Franz v.Gondola

The Gondola or Gunduliæ family (Gondola is the Ragusan Dalmatian/Italian rendition; Gunduliæ is the Croatian rendition) were an old noble family from Dubrovnik (Ragusa), with origins in southern Croatia and the Tyrol. They are considered as one of the most prestigious families of the Republic of Ragusa.Originally from Lucca, the family arrived in Ragusa around 930, with the king Pavlimir of Rome: Wappenbuch von Dalmatien (Heyer Von Rosenfeld), Storia di Raugia (Lucca 1595), Ragusa (Skurla 1876), and Istria e Dalmazia (Semi Tacconi).In the thirteenth century, three generations of this family took leading roles in the public life in Dubrovnik.Three hundred years later, the poet Ivan Gunduliæ 1589-1638 (Giovanni Gondola, son of Francesco Count of Gondola and Dziva Gradi, who died in 1624, had been knez five times) became the most significant person in the Gundulic family, being named the Count in Konavle in 1615 and 1619. In 1634 he became a senator. At the end of 1638 he was elected to the Small Parliament but died before he was able to take office.Giovanni’s son, Francesco, served the Austrian Empire and Polish King Jan III Sobieski in 1683, defeating the Ottoman Turks in the Battle of Vienna. The family then obtained fiefdoms from Leopold I, Holy Roman Emperor. The others sons Segismondo, (Sisko)died (16.1.1682) and Matheo were many times knez of Ragusa.The members of these lines follow.The Giovanni Gondola/Ivan Gunduliæ lineageThis line begins with Giovanni Gondola, who married with Maria Victoria Condezza di Strozzi, have two children, Francesco Antonio Gondola, Generalfeldwachtmeister, July 27, 1682 and Feldmarschall-Leutnant in September 4, 1685, (without descendants of male), who die in 1717, in the familiar palace of the city of Vienna “Renngasse”, and Segismondo Gondola, that married with Catterina De Nale, have four children. Francesco Gondola, Giovanni Gondola, Hieronymus Gondola and Segismondo Gondola. Francesco Gondola married with [[Maria Ana [u]Kisserenyi * Serenyi]], obtains the fiefdoms in June 21, 1719, (with the lands of Trpanj or Trappano) after his death his son inherits Francesco Giuseppe Gondola, archbishop of Paderborner Dom (1752 - 1764), who is born in Vienna in 1711 and dies in 1774, as well holds the fiefdoms from 1764, his cousin, son of Segismondo (II), who died in 1758, *Segismondo Domenico de Gondola February 6, 1712 died in Ragusa January 15, 1800( married with Francesca di Bona died in Ragusa. February 22, 1785, not have any children.In 1787, Segismondo adopted Francesco Ghetaldi-Gondola, the son of his sister Catterina Gondola October 12, 1709 and die December 26, 1787,. Catterina married Matheo Ghetaldi ( son of Matheo Ghetaldi and Countess María Pozza di Zagorien) (December 30, 1705–March 13, 1776). The testamentary condition took place in 1799, uniting the two families, creating the Ghetaldi-Gondola family. (source: Wappenbuch von Dalmatien (Heyer Von Rosenfeld), Storia di Raugia (Lucca 1595), Ragusa (Skurla 1876), and Istria e Dalmazia (Semi Tacconi).)

Remark 2827 of Fri Dec 29 20:24:47 MET 2006 by anonymous referring to: Georg Friedrich Ferdinand v.Preussen

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Remark 2828 of Sun Dec 31 17:51:20 MET 2006 by abogado_dechile@hotmail.com referring to: Franz v.Gondola

Ovo je kontakt e-mail koji je kroz http://www.gravosa.com poslao:Juan Matteucci Nekoji storoji dubrovacki pisci iz polovine XIX v. a prije toga u XVIII v.historicar Nijemac Kristijan Eugel tvrdili su, pogrjesno, ne znamo na osnovucega, da je najposijedni Gundulic bio veoma zasluzni crkveni dostojanstvenikbiskup Josip Frano Gundulic (Góndola)? Bio je sin Frana Siskova Gundulica imajke ne- Dubrovkinje ( cije nam je porodicno prezime nepoznato). Rogjen u Becu1711 g. bio je do svoje smrti 5.III.1774 g. zupnik u Probstdorfu (Blizu Beca);nakon sto je bio posvecen za biskupa, imenovan je bio od Sv.Stolice apostolskimvikarom per septemtriomem i naslovnim biskupom od Tempe; k tome je bio idirector i profesor becke bogoslovne fakultati.--- Bio je jedan od posijednjihmuskih potomaka porodice Gundulica i bas po ocu praunik slavnog nam pjesnika“Osmanide”.Un ovaj crkveni dostojanstvenik Josip Frano Gundulic nije bio najposijednjiGundulic- to je bio Sisko Dominio Gundulic, onom biskupu prvobratuced. Otacnajposljednjeg Gundulica Sisko matej Gundulic, ozenjen Ursulom Frana Getaldica,imao je 4 sina, od kojih: najstarijega Siska Domenika, prije pomenutoga, te josFrana, Frana i Incacija, Dziva Frana, i dvije kcerli: Katu, udatu, o kojoj ceovdje biti govora, i Ursula, neudatu. Sisko Dominik Gundulic rodio se uDuvrovniku 6 februara g. 1712, ozenio se Franom Bunicevom 20 januara g. 1754.Pjesniku Osmanide bio je po ocu praunuk (Na temelju Matica zupnog ureda graDubrovnika iz XVII i XVIII v.). Ovdje pomenuta Kata, kci Siska Mateja i UrsuleGetaldic 20 novembra 1740 god. Sisko Dominik Gundulic nije u svome braku imaopotomaka, dok je sestra mu udata Getaldic imala sinove: Frana Augustina,rogjenog 30.XII.1743 g., o kome ce ovdje biti dalje govora, te Siska Dominika, ikceri: Mariju, Ursulu i Mariju Ursulu.Siska Dominika Gundulica dopala je i njega viseputa koja od mnogih sluzabaplemickih u republici, a vrsio je i mnoge druge poslove, sto ih njegov zavicajdavase svojim plemicima. Od carskog Beca dobi on velike pocasti i naslove:carskog komornika (cambelana( carskog dvornika. On se je ovim pocasnim naslovimauvelike ponosio te je uz svoje ime , i uz pocasni naslov grofa (comes) svetogrimskog carstva, uvijek vise manje potpuno ih isticao. Tako kad je koji putprisistvovao u svojstvu krsnoga kuma crkvenom obredu pri krstenju kojegplemickog djeteta, pa kad je god. 1785 postavio nad onim grobom u kapeliGundulica u sakristiji Male Brace novi nadgrobni natpis.Evo nas i sa odgovorom na vazno pitanje, tko je bio sahranjen u obiteljoskokgrobnici Gundulica u kapeli Trojice (Sv.Trojstva). O tome srecom imamo jesnihbiljezaka u pomenutim katalozima registrima ukopa u dubrovakhoj franjevackoj Crkvi. Tu su u prvom od tih kataloga registara zabiljezeni ovi clanovi porodiceGundulica: 1) XII Marinko Gundulic, Isusovac, sahranjen 1.XII.1647 g. InSacrestia co li suoi parenti. Bio je glasoviti osnovala isisovackog kolegija uDubrovniku; 2) Dzivo Marina Gundulic, sahranjen 14.VIII g. 1650, in sacrestia.To je bio glasoviti kronista; sin Marina Gundulic i Vice Tudisevic; 3) MarinaGundulic sin Dziva Marinova Gundulic, sahranjen 23. V g. 1659, in sacrestia nelsuo sepolcro; 4) Dzivo Marina Gundulic, sahranjen 14.VIII g. 1661, in sacrestia;5) Don Nikola Dziva Gundulic, sahranjen 15.II g. 1665, in sacrestia nel sepolcrodi Gondola; 6) Dom Sebastijan Gundulic, sahranjen 8.II g. 1666 nel sua Capella;7) Marin, sin Dziva Marinova Gundulic, sahranj en 11.V. g. 1666 in sacristia; 8)Dom Sebastijan Gundulic, sahranjen 29.V.g.1684, nella Sacrestia Grande nella capella si Sig.ri Gondula; O njemu jezabiljezemo ovdje i to, da je bio ubijen od hajduka kod sela Osonika; 9) OrsatNicolina Gundulic, sahranjen 21.IV g. 1687, in sacrestia nella Capella diGondola; 10) Pavo Nokolina Gundulic, sahranjen 14.III g. 1688 nella capella diGondola in Sacrestia. Nacon skoro 100 godina iza ovog ukopa u onoj cakristijione god. 1688, sacuvana nam je u drugoj i trecoj biljeska. Ta glasi, da je dana22 februara g. 1785 preminula te ukopana sutradan Frana rogj. Bunic, supruganajposljednjega Gundulica, Siska Domenika Siskova Gundulica. Ta biljesca glasi uIl knjizi kataloga registara: 22 Fre. O Morj la Sig.ra Madama Francisca MogliedellÈccelenza Sigismondo Góndola, ed il gior.o seg.te fu sepulta con u solemnefunerale nella pro.a capella Della SS. Ma trinita nella proa.a sep.a--- 1785. UIll onih knjiga bilsjeska glasé ovoko: Febbreio ---- 22 moej Fran(ces)ca Madama dellÈcc.mo Sigismondo Góndola, ed il gior.oseg(uen)te fu sepulta nella Capella della SS.ma trinitá nella proa.asep.ra---1785.Je li bulo u onoj grobnici ukopano jos drugih osoba iz one grane porodiceGundulica? Sigurno je da ih je bilo, a to su sigurno bili i oni Gundulici, kojesmo prije spomenuli, iz XVI Rijeka, a za koje nijesu nam sacuvani kataloziregistri ukopanih ( koji su sacuvani od XVII v.) U ovaj grob Gundulica ukopanasu i malena. (source: Archivist from Ragusa)

Remark 2829 of Tue Jan 2 11:08:06 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Irene zu Solms-Laubach

Irene zu Solms-Laubach, gestorben am 16. Dezember 2006 in Rüdenhausen (source: Homepage des Hauses Preussen)

Remark 2830 of Mon Jan 8 11:47:01 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Louis XIV de France

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Remark 2831 of Wed Jan 10 15:05:06 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Benedikta Astrid Ingeborg Ingrid af Danmark

Benedikte Astrid Ingeborg Ingrid, Prinsesse til Danmark, født den 29. april 1944 (1.change Benedikta to Benedikte, 2. correct title is: Prinsesse til Danmark (danish af= german von; danish til= german zu) 3. change birth to 29 APRIL 1944) (source: http://kongehuset.dk/publish.php?dogtag=k_dk_familien_benedikte)

Remark 2832 of Wed Jan 10 15:20:27 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Frederik Andre Henrik Christian af Danmark

Frederik André Henrik Christian, Hans Kongelige Højhed Kronprinsen, Prins til Danmark (transl: His Royal Highness the crownprince, prince of D.)Marriage: 14. maj 2004 to Mary Elizabeth Donaldson, Mary Elizabeth, Kronprinsesse af Danmark, born 5. februar 1972 in Hobart, Tasmania, Australia.(note: "til Danmark" used by the royal danish bloodline with succession to the throne, "af Danmark" used by married to royal danish family)Children: Christian Valdemar Henri John (Christian), Prins til Danmark, born 15. oktober 2005, Rigshospitalet in København. (source: http://kongehuset.dk/publish.php?dogtag=k_dk_familien_kronprinsen ; http://kongehuset.dk/publish.php?dogtag=k_dk_familien_mary ; http://www.kronprinsparret.dk/c0000c)

Remark 2833 of Wed Jan 10 15:41:37 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Joachim af Danmark

Joachim Holger Waldemar Christian (Joachim), Prins til DanmarkMarried: Alexandra Manley, divorced 8 apr 2005.Children: 1. Nikolai William Alexander Frederik (Nikolai), Prins til Danmark, born 28. august 1999, Rigshospitalet in København.2. Felix Henrik Valdemar Christian (Felix), Prins til Danmark, born 22. juli 2002, Rigshospitalet in København. (source: http://kongehuset.dk/publish.php?dogtag=k_dk_familien_joachim ; http://kongehuset.dk/publish.php?dogtag=k_dk_familien_nicolai ; http://kongehuset.dk/publish.php?dogtag=k_dk_familien_felix)

Remark 2834 of Wed Jan 10 15:50:17 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Alexandra Manley

Alexandra, Prinsesse af Danmark, grevinde af Frederiksborg* (countess of Frederiksborg) born 30. june 1964 in Hong Kong.father: Richard Nigel Manley b. 1924, Shanghaimother: Christa Maria Manley (b. Nowotny), b. 1933 in Austria.* when divorced, Queen Margarethe made her countess, though she still is princess but with prefix HH instead of HRH (source: http://kongehuset.dk/publish.php?dogtag=k_dk_familien_alexandra)

Remark 2835 of Thu Jan 11 11:44:43 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Wilhelm v.Nesselrode

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Remark 2836 of Thu Jan 11 11:44:43 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Wilhelm v.Nesselrode

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Remark 2837 of Sun Jan 14 16:21:15 MET 2007 by abogado_dechile@hotmail.com referring to: Josefa v.Rindsmaul

married with Franz Anton v.Gondola +1762. (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Gondola_Rindsmaul.jpg)

Remark 2838 of Sun Jan 14 16:52:30 MET 2007 by abogado_dechile@hotmail.com referring to: Maria Vittoria Strozzi

Second marriage with Franz.v.Gondola, have to sons, Franz v.Gondola and Sigmund v.Gondola. (source: der niederosterrishes standische adel, siet 131,132.)

Remark 2839 of Tue Jan 23 13:32:56 MET 2007 by abogado_dechile@hotmail.com referring to: Helene v.Ghetaldi

The House of Caboga, was one of the most recognized and oldest in the Republic of Ragusa, originating from the 8th century. Many of its members were dukes (Croatian: knez) of the Republic. The Austrian Empire recognized its long-standing nobility in 1818 and 1833 were with the grade of Count/Graf. Some members of the family included:Franz Blasius Maria Martin Graf Caboga born in 1781.Bernhard Franz Maria Graf Caboga, general-director, 6 febrary 1785, Ragusa, 19 November 1855, Viena, married in 1833 with the widow Princess Julianne Wanda of Potocki, 1788, 18 September 1876 in Lemberg, not have any children. (the first husbund of Julianne Wanda of Potocki was Count Cajetan of Uruski, 1 June 1817, 5 April 1827). notes(Tr.d. Klemens Grafen C. u. d. Maddalena geb. von Ghetaldi; Ragusa. 9 Jun.1834, + Wien....1916) Ragusan house of CabogaBlasius Philipp Anton Johann Franz Caboga, * 25 May 1774 + 13 May 1854, married in 1806 with Maria Caterina V.Sarocco. They have two children:1) Heinrich Nikolaus Bernhard Graf Caboga, 1 August 1818 Ragusa, + 1 March 1881 Viena, married with Helena baronin de Ghetaldi (see House of Ghetaldi) 10 June 1837 in Zara, 24 December 1931 Ragusa). They had three children:Marie Bernhardine Anna Grafin Caboga 20 November 1856 Ragusa 19 November 1938, Trieste(notes: tochter des 1.Marz 1881 zu Wien + Patriziers von Ragusa, k.k Kammerers, Majors d. R. Mitgliedes des Herrenhauses MVK (KD)....), married with Albert Ritter Conti v.Cedassamare + 6 April 1900 Trieste, they have one known son: Albert ContiAlbert Ritter Conti v.Cedassamare(also Albert Conti) 29 January 1887, Trieste, and died 18 January 1967 in Hollywood, California, USA, was an actor, but first he specialized in law (high school and law college in Graz)and natural science, married with Patricia Cross.Anna Marie Enrichetta Luigia Grafin Caboga 20 June 1858, date of death uknown), married with Luzian v.Ziegler-Pozza, + 8 September 1930 Ragusa.Bernhard Blasius Maroica Johann Maria Graf Caboga 21 April 1863 in Ragusa, 10 May 1922 and died in Waltendorf near Graz, Austria, he was Austrian consul in Jerusalem. He bought in 1869 at Tantur in Bethlehem the area that was called the Tower of Jacob and Ephrata. There in 1876 the Hospice of the Order of Malta was opened. married with Marie Valerie Freiin v.Locatelli , * 4 June 1870 Angoris2) Johann Bernhard Franz Graf Caboga born in 1808, k.k kammerer and major married in 1838 with Wilhelmine v.Privitzer, they have one children;Maria Bernhardine Cäcilie Wilhelmine Cabogaborn in 1839.[edit] REFERENCESHEYER v. ROSENFELD, Carl Georg - "Der Adel des Königreichs Dalmatien", in Siebmacher Bd. IV, 3. Abteilung, Nürnberg 1873. Caboga - Seite 6, 101, XXII, Tafel 3Stratowa - Wiener Genealogisches Taschenbuch, Caboga, Band 2, Seite 96 (Namenserwähnung). (source: HEYER v. ROSENFELD, Carl Georg - "Der Adel des Königreichs Dalmatien", in Siebmacher Bd. IV, 3. Abteilung, Nürnberg 1873. Caboga - Seite 6, 101, XXII, Tafel 3)

Remark 2840 of Thu Jan 25 23:04:48 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Karl (Charlemagne)

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Remark 2841 of Fri Feb 2 13:36:31 MET 2007 by abogado_dechile@hotmail.com referring to: Marie Bernhardine Anna Caboga

Marie Bernhardine Anna Grafin Caboga 20 November 1856 Ragusa 19 November 1938, Trieste(notes: tochter des 1.Marz 1881 zu Wien + Patriziers von Ragusa, k.k Kammerers, Majors d. R. Mitgliedes des Herrenhauses MVK (KD)....), married with Albert Ritter Conti v.Cedassamare(ALBERT Justus Franz Hannibal Stefanborn)seit 1881 Besitzer des Fideikommisses, GVK.m.K., k.u.k. Kämmerer, k.k. Bezirkshauptmann i. R. (bis 1892 in Pola) in Trieste 4 June 1853 + 6 April 1900 Trieste, they have five sons:Martha Maria Conti v.Cedassamare, born in Trieste 1 Febrary 1883.Peter (PEDRO) Maria Ritter Conti v.Cedassamare, born in Trieste 29 June 1884, died (daselbst) 6 April 1886.Justus (GIUSTO) Maria Ritter Conti v.Cedassamare, born in Trieste 22 November 1885, died (daselbst) 26 Marz 1886.Albert Ritter Conti v.Cedassamare(also Albert Conti)( ALBERT Maroica Blasius Franz Maria)29 January 1887, Görz, and died 18 January 1967 in Hollywood, California, USA, was an actor, but first he specialized in law (high school and law college in Graz)and natural science, married with Patricia Cross.Maria Concetta Conti v.Cedassamare, born in Pola 5 December 1892. (source: Genealogischen Taschenbuches der Adeligen Häuser Österreichs 1905", Seite 155 lautet: )

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Remark 2842 of Wed Feb 14 0:28:40 MET 2007 by abogado_dechile@hotmail.com referring to: Anna Marie Enrichetta Luigia Caboga

Anna Marie Enrichetta Luigia Grafin Caboga 20 June 1858, date of death uknown), married with Luzian v.Ziegler-Pozza,(T.d. VizeAdmirals i. R.) died 8 September 1930 Ragusa. They had one daugther:Helene v. Ziegler-Pozza, who born in Pola 3 March 1889 and died Baden, Viena 2 February 1968, she married with Hugo Theobald Alfons Karl Maria Freiherr von Seyffertitz,(KorvKpt. i. R) who born in Brixen 23 September 1885 and died Baden, Viena 10 June 1966 (source: HEYER v. ROSENFELD, Carl Georg - "Der Adel des Königreichs Dalmatien", in Siebmacher Bd. IV, 3. Abteilung, Nürnberg 1873. Caboga - Seite 6, 101, XXII, Tafel 3)

Remark 2843 of Thu Feb 15 19:51:20 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Bertold II. im Breisgau

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Remark 2844 of Fri Feb 16 19:59:40 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Maria Margaretha Thavonathia

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Remark 2845 of Sun Feb 18 13:26:27 MET 2007 by sonja_hermann@gmx.de referring to: Margareta v.Castell

Quellen zu Margareta von Castell (source: Hauptstaatsarchiv Düsseldorf, Bestand Stift Essen; Schmithals, Drei freiherrliche Stifter, in: AHVN 83 (1907))

Remark 2846 of Wed Feb 21 11:52:11 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Pribislaw (II) v.Mecklenburg

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Remark 2847 of Thu Mar 1 17:35:05 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Maria Cresczentia Bourgin

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Remark 2848 of Fri Mar 2 6:49:31 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Maria Adelaide Louise Therese Wilhelmine v.Luxemburg, v.Bourbon v.Parma u. v.Nassau

died 28 Feb. 2007 (source: Michael Rhodes message posted on google groups-peerage)

Remark 2849 of Fri Mar 9 19:06:55 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Margaret Hamilton

(b c1585, d 11.09.1623); She was the daughter of Claud Hamilton, 1st Baron Paisley and Margaret Seton (dau of George, 5th Baron Seton). (source: http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/dd/douglas08.htm http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/hh4aa/hamilton10.htm#linklo)

Remark 2850 of Fri Mar 23 12:21:47 MET 2007 by svetlanbalashova@mail.ru referring to: Joseph Konstantin v.Ludolf

Joseph Konstantin v.Ludolf oder Giuseppe Konstantino Graf de Ludolf (Constantinopol,1787-1875)- der neapolitanische Gesandte in Petersburg (1829 -1831), in Vatikan (ca 1845-1850), geheir. Caroline Wilhelmine, geborene Grf. Stackelberg(+1863).Sein Vater (vermutlih) ist Graf Karl von Ludolf (1754-1803) -der oesterreichische Gesandte in Stockholm, der Sohn des Wilhelm Moritz Graf von Ludolf (1712-1793), geheir. Katerine de Chabert (1725-1793), seit 1741 - der neapolitanische Gesandte und dragoman in Constantinopol. Kinder:Wilhelm, seit 1793 ist auchder neapolitanische Gesandte und dragoman in Constantinopol, Karl (s. ueber), Die Tochter Wilhelmine, geheir. Graf de Saint-Priest (Constantinopol, 29.4.1776-17.3.1814, Laon). (source: Turkology Update Leiden Project Working Papers Archive; ÐÓÑÑÊÈÉ ÁÈÎÃÐÀÔÈ×ÅÑÊÈÉ ÑËÎÂÀÐÜ. Òîì «Ëàáçèíà–Ëÿøåíêî». ÑÏá., 1914. Ñ.815–816; Ë.À. ×åðåéñêèé. Ïóøêèí è åãî îêðóæåíèå, Ë.,1998, ñ.242)

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Remark 2851 of Mon Apr 2 21:52:07 MET 2007 by jhl@surfeu.de referring to: Maria v.Lintzenich

Da ist wohl etwas durcheinandergeraten - 100 Jahre Unterschied bei den Sterbedaten von Geschwistern wäre bei einer Plausibilitätskontrolle aufgefallen.Früher standen diese älteren Kinder unter Heinrich oo Anna de Horion (source: wwperson)

Remark 2852 of Tue Apr 3 8:19:35 MET 2007 by jhl@surfeu.de referring to: Magdalena Ursula Cordula von der Heyden

Heirathsbreif vom 15. Februar 1621 zwischen Lothar v. Metternich, ehelichem Sohn des Lothar v. Metternich und Anna geb. Freiin von Dehren und Magdalena Cordula von Heyden, ehelichen Tochter des Lubert von Heyden und der Ursula geb. von Scho"nberg (source: Deutsche Adelsproben)

Remark 2853 of Tue May 1 11:37:15 MET 2007 by jhl@surfeu.de referring to: Franz v.Schönrode

Hauptstaatsarchiv Duesseldorf Signatur: AA 002, 3831Aktenzeichen: M 1072/2818Beteiligt als (2) Kläger: Dietrich von Myllendonk, Herr zu Drachenfels und Reuland (Ruland, Belgien) und zur Heyden, Witwer der Dietrich von Bronckhorst und Batenburg, in erster Ehe mit Franz von Schönrath verehelicht, (Bekl.).Beteiligt als (3) Beklagter: Wilhelm von dem Bongart (Bongard) zu Wijnandsrade (Herrenwinandtsrode, bei Hoensbroek, Niederlande), Gatte der Maria Maschereil (Marscheriell), Tochter des Winand Maschereil und der Margarethe von Schönrath, und sein Bruder Werner von dem Bongart (Bongard) zu Bergerhausen, jül. Erbkämmerer, (Kl.).Beteiligt als (4) Prokuratoren (Kl..): Dr. Christoph Rebstock 1564 - Dr. Melchior Schwartzenberger 1564 - Dr. Laurentius Wildthelm 1564.Sachverhalt des Falls:Streitgegenstand: Besitzstreit um Haus und Herrschaft (zu der) Heyden, ein jül. Lehen. Berufung gegen das Urteil der Vorinstanz vom 8. Mai 1564, wonach die Appellaten als nächste Gesippte der Familie von Schönrath mit Haus und Herrschaft zu der Heyden (Heiden) belehnt und immittiert werden sollen. Die Appellaten leiten ihren Erbanspruch von Maria Maschereil her, Cousine des Franz von Schönrath und nächste weltliche Angehörige der Familie Schönrath. Sie verweisen ferner darauf, daß ihnen Anna von Schönrath, geistliche Schwester des Franz von Schönrath, nach dem Tod ihrer Eltern und Geschwister die streitige Herrschaft übertragen und zediert habe. Der Appellant erhebt gemäß dem jül. Erbrecht und gemäß dem Pfandrecht (ius pignoris) Anspruch auf Heyden. Die Herrschaft sei 1367 durch Gotthard zur Heyden für 10000 Goldgulden an seinen Neffen Johann von Gronsveld verpfändet worden, wobei der letztere sie als Pfandherr (pleno iure utilis dominus) in seinen tatsächlichen Besitz genommen habe. Der letzte Pfandherr sei Franz von Schönrath, der erste Gatte der Dietrich von Bronckhorst und Batenburg gewesen. Nach seinem Tod habe seine Witwe die Herrschaft Heyden rechtmäßig als Erbin, Leibzüchterin und Pfandherrin in Besitz genommen. Der Appellant sei nun ihr rechtmäßiger Erbe und Leibzüchter. Die Appellaten sind der Auffassung, daß ihr Erbrecht höher als das Pfandrecht zu bewerten sei, weil die streitige Herrschaft 1500 in ein Erblehen der Familie von Schönrath umgewandelt worden sei. (source: Regesten Hauptstaatsarchiv D'dorf)

Remark 2854 of Fri May 18 23:58:00 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Henning v.Stralenheim

Baron von Stralenheim ist seit längerer Zeit verstorben. (source: )

--leider ist "seit längerer Zeit" kein verwendbares Datum --

Remark 2855 of Wed May 23 22:17:53 MET 2007 by peter.ziegenfuss@gmx.de referring to: Heinrich I. v.Fürstenberg

Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,Bei Heinrich I. Graf v.Fürstenberg * [1228,1234] + [24.12.1823,6.1.1284] Vater: Egino V. (II) v.Urach u. FreiburgMutter: Adelheid v.Niefenist beim ersten Todesdatum wohl irrtümlich ein"Zahlendreher" gespeichert. Statt 1823 dürftees wohl 1283 heißen.Herzlichen Dank für die hervorragende Arbeit.Ihre Datenbank ist eine wahre Fundgrube. (source: )

--danke --

Remark 2856 of Fri May 25 18:53:09 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Elisabeth zur Lippe

die Person ist 2 x vorhanden (identisch mit "INDEX=I216729"), genauso wie ihr Ehemann Georg Hermann von Schauenburg (INDEX=I218373 und INDEX=I216053) (source: )

Remark 2857 of Mon Jun 4 0:15:48 MET 2007 by jhl@surfeu.de referring to: Carl Friedrich v.Lang-Puchhof

Sein Schwiegersohn war August von Schmieder zu Steinach. (source: diverse Publikationen im Bereich Vollblutzucht )

Remark 2858 of Mon Jun 11 23:47:22 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Alexandra Pia Notgera zu Oettingen-Oettingen u. Oettingen-Spielberg

Diese Dame hat, mit ihrem Gemahl, Fürst Hubertus Fugger, noch ein 5. Kind mit Namen: Nikolaus Franz Anselm Dominikus *28.02.1993 (source: )

Remark 2859 of Mon Jun 11 23:50:54 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Franziska Victoria Elisabeth Maria Fugger v.Babenhausen

Ist seit 13.12.2003 verheiratet mit: Gonzalo Cazenave (source: )

Remark 2860 of Mon Jul 2 11:34:11 MET 2007 by Teuteberg-Ahnenforschung@web.de referring to: Richard v.Weizsäcker

Er ist zwei Mal in der Datenbank enthalten:sieheRichard Karl Weizsäcker* 15.4.1920 StuttgartVater: Ernst Heinrich WeizsäckerMutter: Marianne v.Graevenitz 1. Ehe/Verbindung : Marianne v.Kretschmann 1. Robert Klaus Weizsäcker (6.12.1954-?) 2. Andreas Weizsäcker (25.6.1956-?) 3. Marianne Beatrice Weizsäcker (20.8.1958-?) 4. Fritz Eckart Weizsäcker (20.7.1960-?)Hiermit möchte ich eine Verknüpfung anregen.Vielen Dank,Daniel Teuteberg (source: http://ww-person.com/cgi-bin/stoyan/l1/LANG=germ/INDEX=I296874)

Remark 2861 of Mon Jul 2 11:42:05 MET 2007 by Teuteberg-Ahnenforschung@web.de referring to: Johann-Albrecht v.Bülow

Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,Johann-Albrecht von Bülow ist der Vater von Loriot.(siehe Quelle)Mit freundlichen GrüßenDaniel Teuteberg (source: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loriot)

Remark 2862 of Mon Jul 2 11:50:55 MET 2007 by Teuteberg-Ahnenforschung@web.de referring to: Katharina Isabel v.Hardenberg

Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,Katharina Isbael von Hardenberg ist verheiratet mit Ferdinand Karl Augustinus Maria Erzherzog v.Österreich (* 28.5.1965) (siehe http://ww-person.com/cgi-bin/stoyan/l1/LANG=germ/INDEX=I120203 ).Sie führen den Familiennamen "von Habsburg".Kinder: siehe Quelle.Mit freundlichen GrüßenDaniel Teuteberg (source: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stammtafel_der_Habsburger)

Remark 2863 of Mon Jul 2 11:53:00 MET 2007 by Teuteberg-Ahnenforschung@web.de referring to: Ferdinand Karl Augustinus Maria v.Österreich

Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,Ferdinand Karl Augustinus Maria v.Österreich ist verheiratet mit Katharina Isabel von Hardenberg (siehe http://ww-person.com/cgi-bin/stoyan/l1/LANG=germ/INDEX=I327028 ).Sie führen den Familiennamen "von Habsburg".Mit freundlichen GrüßenDaniel Teuteberg (source: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stammtafel_der_Habsburger)

--Das liegt an der alten Version --

Remark 2864 of Tue Jul 3 9:07:27 MET 2007 by Teuteberg-Ahnenforschung@web.de referring to: Tilla v.Grafenstein

Bei ihren Geschwistern und ihr sind Vater und Mutter vertauscht. (source: )

Remark 2865 of Tue Jul 3 9:19:17 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Marianne v.Kretschmann

Sie ist zwei Mal enthalten: INDEX=I307448 und INDEX=I302470. (source: )

Remark 2866 of Sat Jul 7 13:09:13 MET 2007 by Teuteberg-Ahnenforschung@web.de referring to: Gerda Bunnemann

Mir liegt die Sterbeanzeige ihres Vaters vor:Dr. med. Arnold Bunnemann (* 1896, + 8. November 1975; Inhaber des Kgl. Hausordens von Hohenzollern mit Schwertern und des Eisernen Kreuzes I. Klasse; 3400 Göttingen, Friedländer Weg 9/2000 Hamburg 65, Up de Worth 15; Beerdigung am Freitag, dem 14. November 1975, um 10.30 Uhr von der Kapelle des Stadtfriedhofes [Göttingen-Grone] aus).:∞ 1. NN (+ Oktober oder November 1949)/∞ 2. (nach 1949/vor 1975)Ilse geb. Böckel. - Tochter aus 1. Ehe: Dr. Gerda Frfr. Spiegel v. u. zu Peckelsheim geb. Bunnemann ∞ Dr. Raban Frhr. Spiegel v. u. zu Peckelsheim. - Kinder: Christian, Tilman und Barbara. - Bis vor wenigen Monaten muss Tilman bei WW-Person eingetragen gewesen sein, denn ich habe mir den Namen seiner Ehefrau "IRENE Ulrike Viktoria v. d. Decken" notiert. Beide Namen finde ich jetzt nicht mehr!? Irene hatte laut ihrem Stammbaum hier gemeinsame Vorfahren mit Mariae Gloria Ferdinanda Joachima Josefine Wilhelmine Huberta Gräfin von Schönburg-Glauchau (hier Mariae Gloria Gräfin und Herrin v.Schönburg-Forderglauchau, 42001939). (source: Göttinger Tageblatt; November 1975 (genaue Ausgabe nicht bekannt; Kopie liegt vor))

Remark 2867 of Wed Jul 11 11:04:06 MET 2007 by Teuteberg-Ahnenforschung@web.de referring to: Gerda Bunnemann

Nachtrag:Sie starb am 10.02.2005. Ihre leibliche Mutter hieß Helene Bunnemann geb. Stelling. (source: http://worldroots.com/brigitte/royal2/royal43n.htm)

Remark 2868 of Wed Jul 11 21:06:54 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Somerled of the Isles

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Remark 2869 of Sun Jul 22 11:15:18 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Sigismund

(source: c,khjgfckjhgteeeeeeeeeeedeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee)

Remark 2870 of Mon Jul 23 15:10:57 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Marie Caroline v.Battenberg

The children of Alexander of Hesse and Julia von Hauke were Princes of Battenberg, not Counts. Julia and her four elder nascent children (who were born Counts, but were all under the age of six at the time) were all elevated to princely rank by Grand Duke Louis III in 1858. Her fifth and youngest son Francis Joseph was born Prince of Battenberg. (source: )

-->>I=Beatriz de Portugal (1504-1538) es hija del rey de Portugal Manuel I el Afortunado y María de Aragón /Q=/M=/D=/FOLD=Maria/NOLD=de Castilla y de León/BASE=I50200/LANG=germ --

Remark 2871 of Wed Jul 25 10:51:07 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Christine Elisabeth Charlotte v.Schwerin

Es fehlt der Todesort. Christine von Doemming geb Graefin von Schwerin starb in Oldenburg / Holstein und ist in Hohenstein bei Oldenburg / Holstein beerdigt. (source: Sie war meine Grossmutter.)

Remark 2872 of Wed Jul 25 10:54:32 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Wolf v.Doemming

Es fehlt der Todesort. Wolf-Ruediger von Doemming ist bei Thurn durch einen Unfall in der Weichsel ertrunken. (source: Er war mein Grossvater.)

Remark 2873 of Mon Jul 30 13:34:57 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Heinrich I. v.Salm

(source: )

Remark 2874 of Fri Aug 3 16:21:43 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Franz Carl Colonna v.Fels

(source: )

Remark 2875 of Fri Aug 17 20:32:39 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Ana Chacon de Rojas

(source: )

Remark 2876 of Sat Aug 18 18:55:17 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Karl (Charlemagne)

Elkisabeth Dampierre (source: )

Remark 2877 of Sun Sep 2 11:27:22 MET 2007 by bodo@gsedl.de referring to: Friedrich August Thomas v.Gise

Tochter: Adelheid Ernestine Maria Freiin von Giseverheiratet mit: Friedrich August von Moreau (25010434) (source: Archiv Taufkirchen (Vils), Zeitungsausschnitt über einen "Taufkirchener Heiratskontrakt von 1851" die die Ehe von Moreau mit Gise zum Inhalt hat. Unterschrieben ist Kontrakt u.a. mit August und Franziska von Gise als Brauteltern)

Remark 2878 of Mon Sep 3 11:42:58 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: GÑŒnther III. Friedrich Karl zu Schwarzburg-Sondershausen

(source: )

Remark 2879 of Wed Sep 5 12:12:30 MET 2007 by georg.hillmeister@gmx.de referring to: Alice Juliane Maria Immaculata Josefa v.Kageneck

Ehe mit Jürgen Hillmeister * 12.11.1934, + 27.4.1987Kinder: Hans Georg Rüdiger Peter Hillmeister * 24.11.1967,+?Philipp Alexander Moritz Hillmeister * 23.5.2976, +? (source: Gotha, Grafen von Kageneck;, auf Wunsch Urkunden in Kopie)

Remark 2880 of Mon Sep 10 22:13:23 MET 2007 by parsiphal@gmail.com referring to: Alfonso XIII. de España

* María Teresa Ruiz Moragas (Florencia, junio de 1925 - id., 1965) casó en Madrid (26 de octubre de 1957) con el ciudadano italiano Arnoldo Bürgisser Hufenus. Tuvieron dos hijos: Leandro Bürgisser (1958) y Carmen Bürgisser (1959), ambos con descendencia. * Leandro Alfonso Ruiz Moragas (1929, casó en primeras nupcias (junio de 1952) con Rosario Vidal de Barnola, con la que tuvo a María Cristina Ruíz Moragas (1953), con descendencia; Alfonso (1955-2000), sin descendencia; Blanca (1956), con descendencia; Eduardo (1959), con descendencia; y Mercedes (1960), con descendencia. Separado de su mujer desde 1962, Leandro contrajo matrimonio civil en 1982, y religioso a la muerte de su primera mujer (1992), con Concepción Mora. Tienen un hijo: Leandro Ruiz Moragas y Mora. Vive en Madrid.See also: http://www.elmundo.es/cronica/2005/495/1113084011.html (source: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leandro_Alfonso_de_Borb%C3%B3n_Ru%C3%ADz)

Remark 2881 of Mon Sep 10 22:20:15 MET 2007 by parsiphal@gmail.com referring to: Alfonso XIII. de España

For Beatriz Isabel Federica Alfonsa Eugenia Christina Maria Teresa Bienvenida Ladislaa de España * de Borbón (22.6.1909-?) (change database link doesn't work properly)Died in Rome, 22nd of November, 2002. (source: http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/hemeroteca/2002/11/22/1332351.shtml)

Remark 2882 of Thu Sep 27 18:42:14 MET 2007 by anonymous referring to: Franz Christoph Maria v.Wydenbruck

Vater und Enkel können nicht die gleiche Person seinGrußHanno TrurnitPS.: Was macht die CD? (source: )

Remark 2883 of Sun Sep 30 13:11:32 MET 2007 by wwwvogel@gmx.de referring to: Moritz Wilhelm v.Pöllnitz

er hat nur einen Sohn: Christian Erst Moritzdie anderen drei Kinder: Sophia Elisabeth Carolina Henriette Philippina Friedrich Carl Ludwigsind Kinder seines Bruders Friedrich Carl (source: Lindersche Sammlung, Tafelnr. 7b)

Remark 2884 of Thu Oct 11 22:43:30 2007 by ElviR@surfeu.de referring to: Giovanni Battista Angelo v.Ballestrem

Zum Sohn Carl Franz habe ich folgende Angaben gefunden: Carl Franz von Ballestrem (1750-1822) - (05.05.1750-14.08.1822), geb. Woischnik im Kreis Lublinitz O/S, gest. Plawniowitz 1)"... im Herbst des Jahres 1750, wurde das Husarenregiment Nr. 3 des Graf Johannes (Giovanni) nach Woischnik im Kreis Lublinitz O/S verlegt. Hier wurde dem Grafen von Ballestrem am 5. Mai 1750 sein ältester Sohn, Carl Franz, geboren. Später erblickte in diesem Dorf auch seine Tochter, Maria Anna, das Licht der Welt."2)"Nach dem Tod von Carl Franz am 14. August 1822 in Plawniowitz ..."Ob diese korrekt sind, kann ich jedoch nicht sagen :-)) Da "Herbst 1950" genannt, aber Sohn im Mai geboren :-))Viele Grüße,Elvira (source: http://www.rosenberg-os.de/History/Ballestrem%20Pawlik.html)

Remark 2885 of Thu Oct 11 22:59:20 2007 by anonymous referring to: Anna Euphemia Carolina v.Ballestrem

gest. 26. April 1941 in MünchenAngaben sind auch im Personennamensatz der Deutschen Nationalbibliothek bestätigt.Viele Grüße,Elvira (source: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eufemia_von_Adlersfeld-Ballestrem)

Remark 2886 of Sat Oct 13 20:31:17 2007 by anonymous referring to: Anton Maria Franz Sigismund Stanislaus Ledochowski

weitere Nachkommen:Franz Josef Anton Heribert Sigismund Miecyslav Maria (Wien 23.9.1943 - )Wladimir Anton Friedrich Peter Paul Maria (Salzburg 17.6.1946 - )Gabriele Maria Dorothea Agnes Josepha Antonia (Salzburg 8.11.1948 - )Maximilian Anton Maria Christian Konstanz (Salzburg 30.1.1956 - ) (source: Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels Gräfliche Häuser Band XV 1997)

Remark 2887 of Thu Oct 25 21:25:54 2007 by archivbald@aol.com referring to: Anna Magdalena Sophia Teitzschlerin v.Falckenstein

Die Familie muß TRÜTZSCHLER v. FALKENSTEIN heißen (source: DGB Bd. 214, Limburg 2002, S. 734)

Remark 2888 of Thu Oct 25 21:57:30 2007 by anonymous referring to: Ferdinand Wenzel v.Österreich

(source: )

Remark 2889 of Sun Nov 4 12:11:29 2007 by anonymous referring to: Johann Kasimir v.Leiningen-Westerburg

Aufgrund des Artikels "Neue Erkenntnis aus alten Dokumenten" in der Wormser Zeitung vom Samstag, dem 3. November 2007, bin ich sehr neugierig geworden.Herzliche Grüße aus Monsheim - 4. 11. 2007Klaus MöllMitglied der Wormser Familienforscher (source: )

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